grain1 (BC

-- Start log: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:17:10 am BC_MOO time --

Travis_B says, "just for agrument sake"
guest_2_Guest says, "im against genetic engineering"
Prof_Dunn says, "Travis, it explains that in the text."
Cameron_H says, "agree with Maggie"
JustinMW says, "if it was meant for the average public the should have done a better job of presenting the info"
Travis_B says, "ok"
Sara_R says, "agree with justin"
Prof_Dunn says, "WELL, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE CHOSEN A SIDE ON THIS DEBATE?"
Travis_B says, "sorry"
Travis_B says, "I have"
Marie_B says, "i think it is over the head of most of the general public"
Marie_B says, "i have"
Travis_B says, "Go government"
Patricia_B says, "i have"
Kelly_V says, "i have"
Melanie_S says, "i ahve"
Sheree_R says, "i agree with marie"
guest_Guest says, "I can't make up my mind"
Cameron_H says, "i think i have"
Holly_T says, "I have"
Anna_M says, "i have"
Maggie_M says, "i am not sure"
Amy_A says, "I'm still thinking about it"
Kristin_F says, "me either"
Becky_R says, "I think I have"
Sara_R says, "i'm not sure"
JustinMW says, "not too sure yet"
Amy_A says, "Can't I just be a fence sitter?"
Becky_R says, "I agree"
Sara_R says, "me too?"
Travis_B says, "like I said earlier, there are way to many good aspects to over look or turn our backs on it"
Christopher_J says, "THere are to many things such as biotechnology that people wory about in today's society."
Cameron_H eat donut
Carla says, "yep... going with it is a good idea even though i completely disagree with that, but if you go on the other side of an arguement you learn so much more about the subject and become a more rounded person"
Marie_B says, "i think it's not a good idea becuase who knows what we could be doing to our agriculture for the future...we are messing with a lot of incredible stuff that we don't completley understand...there could be bad results"
guest_Guest says, "on the one hand it is not very safe to mess around with what's in your food, on the other hand it is unfair to forbid people to search out new means of improving the world's food supply"
Becky_R says, "it is hard to make a decision"
Doug_Balmer says, "I don't condemn it because not enough is known on the long term effects. i waould agree with more stringent laws on labeling and consumer notification though. There ar just too many things that could go wrong"
Travis_B says, "there are hungry all over the world who don't care if their food is organic or not"
Prof_Dunn says, "WELL WE'VE ALREADY HAD MORE DISCUSSION OF THE BOOK THAN I EXPECTED. BUT HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO DO . . . "
Sheree_R says, "i agree with doug"
Cameron_H says, "ok"
Christopher_J says, "JUST let everything continue to be the same with the prodution of food"
Cameron_H gobbles up a creamy custard donut.
Prof_Dunn says, "I WANT TO HAVE A DEBATE THAT MAY HELP SOME OF YOU TO AT LEAST SEE THE ISSUES INVOLVED . . ."
guest_Guest says, "we can't "
Travis_B says, "the the science to the scientists"
JustinMW says, "i don't think we should mess with nature but i do agree we need food so you gotta do what you gotta do"
Maggie_M says, "watch out cam those are genetiically engineered donuts"
Cameron_H gobbles up a yummy cherry donut.
Carla says, "Things could go wrong when someone builds a computer,... if you dont experiment then there is no use for anything... we would still be living in caves and speaking in grunts....."
Amy_A says, "haha"
Becky_R oks.
Christopher_J eat donut
Prof_Dunn displays slide #1 on Web Projector:
<http://www.bridgewater.edu/~sdunn/eng101/MOODebateGroups.html>.
JustinMW gobbles up a creamy custard donut.
Kelly_V says, "knowing the side your on, would have been easier to pick, if we had read a book about the pros"
Prof_Dunn says, "Take a look over there --------------->"
Cameron_H says, "k"
Sheree R leaves for the 2.
guest_Guest says, "where?"
Becky_R says, "ok"
Doug Balmer leaves for the 1.
JustinMW says, "it was genitically engineered and i couldn't tell a difference"
Christopher J leaves for the 1.
Kelly V leaves for the 2.
Patricia B leaves for the 2.
Kristin_F says, "hey my names not over there"
Prof_Dunn says, "Find your name in the groups, and go to the appropriate cubicle."
Maggie M leaves for the 2.
Prof_Dunn displays slide #1 on Web Projector:
<http://www.bridgewater.edu/~sdunn/eng101/MOODebateGroups.html>.
Sara R leaves for the 2.
Anna M leaves for the 1.
Amy A leaves for the 1.
Travis_B says, "how do you leave for one or the other"
Travis_B says, "sorry"
guest_2_Guest says, "how do u leave"
JustinMW leaves for the 2.
Marie B leaves for the 1.
Travis_B says, "I didn't rea=d"
Travis_B says, "heh e"
Becky_R says, "how do you leave"
Holly_T says, "how do you leave"
Carla leaves for the 2.
Prof_Dunn says, "The instructions at the top tell you how to go to the cubicle."
Cameron_H says, "i cant get there"
Kristin F leaves for the 1.
Melanie_S leaves for Cubicle 2
Travis B leaves for the 1.
Patricia_B arrives from Cubicle 2
Prof_Dunn says, "You have to make sure the "normal" button is clicked first. Then type the number of the cubicle."
guest 2 Guest leaves for the 1.
Becky R leaves for the 2.
Holly T leaves for the 2.
Patricia B leaves for the 2.
Cameron H leaves for the 1.
Prof_Dunn leaves for Cubicle 1
guest_Guest leaves for Cubicle 1
Cameron_H arrives from Cubicle 1
Prof Dunn has arrived.
Prof Dunn leaves for the 2.
chris2 [Guest] leaves for the 1.
chris2_[Guest] arrives from Cubicle 1
chris2_[Guest] leaves for Cubicle 1
Prof Dunn has arrived.
Prof_Dunn says, "Cam."
Cameron_H says, "yes"
Prof_Dunn says, "Do you know where you're supposed to be>?"
Cameron_H says, "i am in one"
Prof_Dunn displays slide #1 on Web Projector:
<http://www.bridgewater.edu/~sdunn/eng101/MOODebateGroups.html>.
Prof_Dunn says, "Do you know how to go to the cubicle?"
Cameron_H says, "press normal then 1 right"
Prof_Dunn says, "Yup. So why are you here?"
Cameron H leaves for the 1.
Soybean leaves for the 1.
Soybean has arrived.
Roundup leaves for the 2.
guest_6_Guest arrives from Prof. Dunn's Corridor
guest_6_Guest says, "IM DISMISSED FROM CLASS NOW FOR THE FOOTBALL TRIP "
guest_6_Guest says, "DEVIN"
guest 6 Guest leaves for the 1.
Roundup Ready Corn has arrived.
Roundup Ready Corn leaves for the 1.
Roundup Ready Corn has arrived.
Roundup Ready Corn leaves for the 2.
Doug_Balmer arrives from Cubicle 1
Kristin_F arrives from Cubicle 1
Anna_M arrives from Cubicle 1
Amy_A arrives from Cubicle 1
Kristin_F leaves for Prof. Dunn's Corridor
Kristin_F arrives from Prof. Dunn's Corridor
Christopher_J arrives from Cubicle 1
Roundup Ready Corn has arrived.
Marie_B arrives from Cubicle 1
JustinMW has arrived.
Sara R has arrived.
Maggie M has arrived.
Holly T has arrived.
Sheree R has arrived.
Roundup Ready Corn leaves for the 1.
Melanie_S arrives from Cubicle 2
Becky R has arrived.
Kelly V has arrived.
Patricia_B arrives from Cubicle 2
Travis_B arrives from Cubicle 1
Travis_B leaves for Prof. Dunn's Corridor
Travis_B arrives from Prof. Dunn's Corridor
Christopher_J leaves for Prof. Dunn's Corridor
Christopher_J arrives from Prof. Dunn's Corridor
Carla arrives from Cubicle 2
Travis_B says, "doug, do you need that site?"
Roundup Ready Corn has arrived.
Doug_Balmer says, "yeah"
Maggie_M says, "hello "
Kristin_F says, "doug you ready?"
Carla says, "grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
Cameron_H arrives from Cubicle 1
Cameron H goes out.
Amy_A says, "what's wrong?"
Travis_B says, "oh, I can't cut and paste in here. darn"
Roundup_Ready_Corn says, "OK EVERYONE. LET'S HERE FROM GORUP ONE FIRST. GROUP ONE. GO FOR IT."
guest Guest has arrived.
Roundup_Ready_Corn says, "Travis, yes you can."
Carla says, "Amy sharp pain in my back... that be all"
Amy_A says, "oh, i'm sorry"
Patricia_B says, "use ctrl. V to paste"
Travis_B says, "http://ehostvgw5.epnet.com/ehost.asp?key=204.179.122.141_8000_-1467437677&site=ehost&return=n"
Travis_B says, "try that doug"
Travis_B says, "thanks patricia"
Carla says, "Amy, its okay... going to the doc in about 20 minites"
Doug_Balmer says, "We, as agricultural biotechnology supporters, are excited with teh promise transgenic crops give us"
Roundup_Ready_Corn says, "Um...group one? Tell us your stance."
Roundup_Ready_Corn says, "OK."
Doug_Balmer says, "We feel that our products do need to be labeled"
Travis_B eat donute
Doug_Balmer says, "More research definitely needs to be found before we go full-scale into the whole proces"
Doug_Balmer says, "s"
Roundup_Ready_Corn says, "Done?"
Doug_Balmer says, "That is our stance, do you want support"
Roundup_Ready_Corn says, "Group two? What do you say?"
Roundup_Ready_Corn says, "What's you stance?"
Patricia_B says, "Biotechnology is bad because we don't know the effects it will cause to the enviornment or to the other species that eat it."
Moderator nods.
Sheree_R says, "there is not enough research to be able to tell if it is benficial in the in the long run for humans and the environment"
Moderator says, "OK, the floor is open for debate from either side. Who would like to begin?"
Doug_Balmer says, "just because something is unknown, does that make it bad"
Sara_R says, "Also, food that have been genetically engineered should be labeled"
Maggie_M says, "biotechnology is BAD!"
Patricia_B says, "but it could be bad"
Travis_B says, "group one agrees with labeling"
Holly_T says, "People have the right to know what they are eating"
JustinMW says, "but it doesn't make it good either"
Doug_Balmer says, "what makes it bad, a lack of research?"
Moderator says, "You go Maggie!"
Travis_B says, "nothing has proven it to be bad so far"
guest_Guest says, "if the gov. would allow more research to be done, environmental concerns could be quelmed"
Melanie_S says, "we dont know if it is harmful so people should not be eating it"
Travis_B says, "none that I have seen "
Becky_R says, "The biotechnology is trying to kill some insects for better harvests this is bad"
Christopher_J says, "bioenginerring has good points and bad points"
Kristin_F says, "if enough research is done to know all possible effects its ok"
Carla says, "Not knowing what is going to happen once they take the genetic stuff out of the lab could destroy more than any human is willing to face"
Patricia_B says, "the companys are trying to kill insects, and if they kill insects that will harm the enviornment"
Christopher_J says, "i feel that there are more good than bad"
Maggie_M says, "we don't know any long term effects.... the chemicals could be very harmful to the environment and make itharder to grow food in the future"
guest_Guest says, "biotech. is trying to improve food quality"
JustinMW says, "you wouldn't take a pill if someone said well i'm not too sure what is in it but it looks like asprin"
Becky_R says, "I f the insects are killed then what will fertilze other plants"
Amy_A says, "well, how do we expect to see the effects of bioengineering if we are dead set against it?"
Doug_Balmer says, "we are saying we need more information before we condemn this process that could pull us from the food crisis that is expected by 2500. "
Holly_T says, "There are still too many qeustions too introduce it into the food supply."
Travis_B says, "wooo, slow down a bit"
Marie_B says, "biotechnology is trying to make the enviroment better and the world a better place for us"
Moderator thinks he's created a biotech free-for-all.
Cameron_H arrives from Cubicle 2
guest_Guest says, "so let's get sure about the situation by doing more research"
Becky_R says, "this is how plants reproduce they get fertilized by other insects"
Melanie_S says, "we need more info before we can support it"
Carla says, "I see both sides and I can see that there is good and bad in both.... but there neds to be more research done before any action is taken..."
Sheree_R says, "i agree, more research is needed"
Christopher_J says, "it is almost itme to go.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111"
Doug_Balmer says, "I agree, we need more research"
Cameron_H says, "yippy"
Becky_R says, "if the insects are dead then they will not be fertilized"
Maggie_M says, "if you eliminate the insects you throw off the ecosystem"
JustinMW says, "we need more info before we can say yes or no"
guest_Guest says, "more research"
Sara_R says, "yeah maybe we'll change our minds if more research is done"
Anna_M says, "more research"
Patricia_B says, "in the book it explained that more crops that were bioengineered died than the normal crops, how is that going to help us get more food if it is all dead?"
Travis_B says, "but we just need to take it one step at a time"
Cameron_H says, "more"
Prof_Dunn says, "Time flies when you're MOOing."
Prof_Dunn says, "Our time is nearly up."
Maggie_M says, "all right lunch time"
Travis_B says, "I have 11:50"
Prof_Dunn says, "Everyone needs to remember that you have a first draft..."
Becky_R says, "yeah"
guest_Guest says, "people are flying off the handels without getting all the information"
Becky_R says, "yep"
Travis_B says, "already done"
Prof_Dunn says, "Of this essay due on Monday..."
JustinMW says, "have a good weekend everyone"
Christopher_J says, "there is not enough research for either side to be wrong yet"
Anna_M says, "yeah"
Maggie_M says, "i'm out"
Prof_Dunn says, "We will have a peer response session then."
Cameron_H says, "yea"
Becky_R says, "ok bue everyone"
Kelly V (asleep) has disconnected.
Amy_A says, "i cant keep up with this conversation and my eyes wont stop watering"
Travis_B says, "amy, I will see you in lecture"
Cameron_H says, "peace and bye bye"
Melanie_S says, "bye ya'll"
Prof_Dunn says, "See you all then."
Sheree R (asleep) has disconnected.
Marie_B says, "bye"
Maggie M (asleep) has disconnected.
Holly_T says, "Bye everyone."
Anna_M says, "bye"
Christopher J (asleep) has disconnected.
Marie B (asleep) has disconnected.
Sara_R says, "slow down"
Kristin_F says, "bye"
Patricia_B says, "bye"
Sara_R says, "bye"
guest_Guest says, "later!"
Carla says, "But to do more research they have to take what they have done and place into the "real" world to see if it is going to be okay and not just say "oh its okay cause we tested it in a nice clean, none germ filled lab""
Kristin F (asleep) has disconnected.
Becky R (asleep) has disconnected.
Melanie S (asleep) has disconnected.
Amy_A says, "ok, see ya travis"
Anna M (asleep) has disconnected.
Holly T (asleep) has disconnected.
guest_Guest has disconnected.
The housekeeper arrives to remove guest_Guest.
Carla (asleep) has disconnected.
Patricia B (asleep) have disconnected.
Sara R (asleep) has disconnected.
Cameron H (asleep) has disconnected.
Doug Balmer (asleep) has disconnected.
JustinMW leaves for Prof. Dunn's Corridor

-- End log: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:50:11 am BC_MOO time --

Travis_B says, "bye everyone"